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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by franko666 » Mon May 03, 2021 5:20 pm

PeterNorfolk wrote: โ†‘
Sun May 02, 2021 7:54 am
21000 or 2 years on my my20 p250
Thank you everyone.
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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by Jijosjag » Tue May 04, 2021 6:34 am

Hey Franko666 may I ask why you're moving from a 330i to p250?

I was initially after a p250 but then deciding on a 330i now. Bmw dealership near me seem more responsive than my local jag dealer.

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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by Chas379 » Sat May 08, 2021 9:49 am

Chas379 wrote: โ†‘
Sun May 02, 2021 2:21 pm
I confirmed with my dealer and they stated 2yrs or 21,000 miles. This will bring me to Sept. this year.

Also I am now seeing the service reminder display quoting due in 500 miles. Although 4 months away this could be correct due to limited use during Covid restrictions and me using the Tuk Tuk for local trips when it is not raining. ๐Ÿ›บ๐Ÿ›บ๐Ÿ›บ
My Jaguar remote app is now flagging that scheduled service due and to contact dealer at earliest convenience.

I called them and was ad used to pop in so they can check oil dilution level and if all appears ok then wait till anniversary date in Sept. They booked me a slot for next week and check whilst I wait.

Has anyone any views on this as never heard of this re a petrol engine.
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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by PhilB » Sat May 08, 2021 10:14 am

Chas379 wrote: โ†‘
Sat May 08, 2021 9:49 am
Has anyone any views on this as never heard of this re a petrol engine.
I think someone was getting confused at the dealership.
Oil diluted with what?
Oil dilution can happen on diesels.
Petrols don't suffer from it.
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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by Chas379 » Sat May 08, 2021 10:36 am

PhilB wrote: โ†‘
Sat May 08, 2021 10:14 am
Chas379 wrote: โ†‘
Sat May 08, 2021 9:49 am
Has anyone any views on this as never heard of this re a petrol engine.
I think someone was getting confused at the dealership.
Oil diluted with what?
Oil dilution can happen on diesels.
Petrols don't suffer from it.
That's was my thought. I will get back to them on Monday as do not need an uneccessary trip. Thanks
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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by Chas379 » Sat May 08, 2021 11:47 am

Chas379 wrote: โ†‘
Sat May 08, 2021 10:36 am
PhilB wrote: โ†‘
Sat May 08, 2021 10:14 am
Chas379 wrote: โ†‘
Sat May 08, 2021 9:49 am
Has anyone any views on this as never heard of this re a petrol engine.
I think someone was getting confused at the dealership.
Oil diluted with what?
Oil dilution can happen on diesels.
Petrols don't suffer from it.
That's was my thought. I will get back to them on Monday as do not need an uneccessary trip. Thanks
I couldn't wait until Monday so got hold of them this morning. Initially there was still confusion so I asked them to refer to a manager. 30 mins later they called back to say I was misinformed and just to wait until the service anniversary date. Oil dilution was applicable to diesels. So thanks once again for reaffirming what I was thinking.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by Indianajons » Sat May 08, 2021 3:37 pm

Oil dilution is not even a problem on diesel XEs, only potentially on the EPace, so I think they were just trying to con you into an early, unnecessary service
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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by chrisjp » Sat May 08, 2021 4:50 pm

BOBCDP wrote: โ†‘
Sun May 02, 2021 11:19 am
I wonder what spells they cast to allow them to extend the petrol service interval from 1 year to 2 years? Unless someone knows otherwise, I was under the impression that the oily bits are all the same, so if that's the case, they should be able to extend intervals for pre MY20 cars to 2 years. Fat hope of that happening with very lucrative service charges!! Sadly it's bean counters who make the decisions rather than engineers and it's all about having to be on a par with what other manufacturers are doing in my view. Maybe 2 years is fine but I will still always change my oil every year
Yes, there can be no logical reason for the extension of the service interval for MY20 onwards petrol XEs to 2 years. I think it is to please fleet managers who normally sell on cars before 2 years is up, so now don't have to worry about servicing at all. It's good, though, that owners now don't have to pay around ยฃ400 at the one year mark just to get an oil and filter change plus a list of "checks".
Having said that, I agree that 2 years is far too long to go without an oil and filter change, even if the mileage is low (which in any case means short journeys with condensation into the oil). The answer is to get an independent to do a one year oil and filter change or, better still, do it yourself. If you have a vacuum oil extractor (eg a PELA) to extract the oil via the dipstick tube, the job is very easy, as the filter is also accessed from the top of the engine. No need to get under the car and remove the undershield with its 20 odd bolts!
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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by fraser » Sun May 09, 2021 11:35 am

The service plan I've just taken out with the local Jaguar agent here in Crewe includes two oil and filter changes between the 21k miles/2yearly services. They agreed with me that this was a good idea for cars that aren't batting up and down motorways all year. The extra charge was not much and, of course, I will get a safety check as well.
BTW, I was told that at the third 2 yearly service, (i.e. Year 6), Jaguar recommend that the brake hoses are replaced. At the moment, I am a bit skeptical on this, especially cars with much lower mileages due to infrequent use.

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Re: Back in the fold?

Post by PhilB » Sun May 09, 2021 11:55 am

I seem to recall back in 2019 looking at the oil specs for the MY20 Ingenium petrols which had changed yet again to a new version of their super dooper Castrol Edge stuff.
That will probably be trolled out as an excuse for upping the servicing to 2 years.
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