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New tyre option

Post by ChrisGB » Mon May 03, 2021 7:49 pm

Browsing through the Goodyear catalogue earlier, I notice that they now do the Eagle F1 Supersport in the 19" 225 / 255 sizes. Another option to consider when making the tyre choice.
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Re: New tyre option

Post by First Jag-g-g » Mon May 03, 2021 11:05 pm

Thanks for the expanded choice opportunity. Not a fan of Goodyear which over four decades of off-and-on use across multiple performance vehicles has several times almost put me into the guardrail with no notice, especially if the roads are slightly wet. While compounds and tyre designs continually evolve so you can't judge this generation of tyre of a certain brand by previous performance in prior generations of the same brand, I can firmly say no more Goodyear for me since they either grip tremendously or let go right NOW without sufficient warning, lol. I am a strong fan of Michelin as well as high end Continental in the All-Season category. If doing the summer ride vs winter ride tyre/rim swap, I'd have a potentially different opinion. To each their own, matched to their own driving style and wallet :-)
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Re: New tyre option

Post by ChrisGB » Tue May 04, 2021 2:12 pm

First Jag-g-g wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 11:05 pm
Thanks for the expanded choice opportunity. Not a fan of Goodyear which over four decades of off-and-on use across multiple performance vehicles has several times almost put me into the guardrail with no notice, especially if the roads are slightly wet. While compounds and tyre designs continually evolve so you can't judge this generation of tyre of a certain brand by previous performance in prior generations of the same brand, I can firmly say no more Goodyear for me since they either grip tremendously or let go right NOW without sufficient warning, lol. I am a strong fan of Michelin as well as high end Continental in the All-Season category. If doing the summer ride vs winter ride tyre/rim swap, I'd have a potentially different opinion. To each their own, matched to their own driving style and wallet :-)
I wonder if it is a location thing. Here, the Goodyear tyres do pretty well. We have the F1 Asymmetric series, the F1 before that. I've not driven on Asymmetric 5, but have on the Asymmetric 3 and they seemed good. I've also had Goodyear Excellence and Efficient Grip, both of which were progressive at the limit. The only bad Goodyear I have ever experienced was the Goodyear RSA which had no grip wet or dry, was harsh and noisy, squealed at the merest hint of cornering force and felt vague with no feedback. They were OE fitment on the Mk1 Chrysler Neon, a car that was transformed into being really very good by fitting some decent tyres.

I'm considering Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, but some testers reckon them less progressive than the Asymmetric 5. Such a subjective thing tyres. It's nice to have another option though.
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Re: New tyre option

Post by Fighterpilot » Tue May 04, 2021 2:24 pm

The thing about tyres is that the same tyre on different cars can be like chalk and cheese. Continental Premium Contact 6 seem to rate highly in many write ups and Michelin Cross Climate + ( all season) are good. I have replaced mine with the same Pirellis as it left the factory as I find them OK. There again I am not an "enthusiastic" driver ie I drive the car normally and not as on a race track :D
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Re: New tyre option

Post by RoJo » Tue May 04, 2021 3:34 pm

My two cars prior to the Jaguars had Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance tyres and I had no issues with those at all. Bearing in mind I live in a remote part of the country, with mainly single carriageway twisty NSL roads, which I do like to stick to the limit on.

Having said that, I do use a dedicated winter set but I'm still happy with the original Dunlops!
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Re: New tyre option

Post by ChrisGB » Tue May 04, 2021 5:29 pm

Fighterpilot wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 2:24 pm
The thing about tyres is that the same tyre on different cars can be like chalk and cheese. Continental Premium Contact 6 seem to rate highly in many write ups and Michelin Cross Climate + ( all season) are good. I have replaced mine with the same Pirellis as it left the factory as I find them OK. There again I am not an "enthusiastic" driver ie I drive the car normally and not as on a race track :D
This is the crux with tyre choice, cars load the tyres differently and present different camber and geometry behaviour under various inputs.
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Re: New tyre option

Post by PusserH » Tue May 04, 2021 5:57 pm

ChrisGB wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 2:12 pm
First Jag-g-g wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 11:05 pm
Thanks for the expanded choice opportunity. Not a fan of Goodyear which over four decades of off-and-on use across multiple performance vehicles has several times almost put me into the guardrail with no notice, especially if the roads are slightly wet. While compounds and tyre designs continually evolve so you can't judge this generation of tyre of a certain brand by previous performance in prior generations of the same brand, I can firmly say no more Goodyear for me since they either grip tremendously or let go right NOW without sufficient warning, lol. I am a strong fan of Michelin as well as high end Continental in the All-Season category. If doing the summer ride vs winter ride tyre/rim swap, I'd have a potentially different opinion. To each their own, matched to their own driving style and wallet :-)
I wonder if it is a location thing. Here, the Goodyear tyres do pretty well. We have the F1 Asymmetric series, the F1 before that. I've not driven on Asymmetric 5, but have on the Asymmetric 3 and they seemed good. I've also had Goodyear Excellence and Efficient Grip, both of which were progressive at the limit. The only bad Goodyear I have ever experienced was the Goodyear RSA which had no grip wet or dry, was harsh and noisy, squealed at the merest hint of cornering force and felt vague with no feedback. They were OE fitment on the Mk1 Chrysler Neon, a car that was transformed into being really very good by fitting some decent tyres.

I'm considering Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, but some testers reckon them less progressive than the Asymmetric 5. Such a subjective thing tyres. It's nice to have another option though.
I have F1 Asymmetrics on my XE, (3’s on front, 5’s on rear) have driven in snow, ice, dry and v wet conditions and the tyres have been confidence inspiring. Smooth drive, fairly quiet and really grippy. Was after PS4s but couldn’t source the fronts at the time so plumped for the GY Eagles. Pleased I did, especially as all 4 cost £516 fitted 🙂
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Re: New tyre option

Post by ChrisGB » Tue May 04, 2021 10:32 pm

PusserH wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 5:57 pm
ChrisGB wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 2:12 pm
First Jag-g-g wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 11:05 pm
Thanks for the expanded choice opportunity. Not a fan of Goodyear which over four decades of off-and-on use across multiple performance vehicles has several times almost put me into the guardrail with no notice, especially if the roads are slightly wet. While compounds and tyre designs continually evolve so you can't judge this generation of tyre of a certain brand by previous performance in prior generations of the same brand, I can firmly say no more Goodyear for me since they either grip tremendously or let go right NOW without sufficient warning, lol. I am a strong fan of Michelin as well as high end Continental in the All-Season category. If doing the summer ride vs winter ride tyre/rim swap, I'd have a potentially different opinion. To each their own, matched to their own driving style and wallet :-)
I wonder if it is a location thing. Here, the Goodyear tyres do pretty well. We have the F1 Asymmetric series, the F1 before that. I've not driven on Asymmetric 5, but have on the Asymmetric 3 and they seemed good. I've also had Goodyear Excellence and Efficient Grip, both of which were progressive at the limit. The only bad Goodyear I have ever experienced was the Goodyear RSA which had no grip wet or dry, was harsh and noisy, squealed at the merest hint of cornering force and felt vague with no feedback. They were OE fitment on the Mk1 Chrysler Neon, a car that was transformed into being really very good by fitting some decent tyres.

I'm considering Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, but some testers reckon them less progressive than the Asymmetric 5. Such a subjective thing tyres. It's nice to have another option though.
I have F1 Asymmetrics on my XE, (3’s on front, 5’s on rear) have driven in snow, ice, dry and v wet conditions and the tyres have been confidence inspiring. Smooth drive, fairly quiet and really grippy. Was after PS4s but couldn’t source the fronts at the time so plumped for the GY Eagles. Pleased I did, especially as all 4 cost £516 fitted 🙂
When you say fairly quiet, are they as quiet as the Dunlops?
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Re: New tyre option

Post by PusserH » Wed May 05, 2021 7:37 am

ChrisGB wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 10:32 pm
PusserH wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 5:57 pm
ChrisGB wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 2:12 pm


I wonder if it is a location thing. Here, the Goodyear tyres do pretty well. We have the F1 Asymmetric series, the F1 before that. I've not driven on Asymmetric 5, but have on the Asymmetric 3 and they seemed good. I've also had Goodyear Excellence and Efficient Grip, both of which were progressive at the limit. The only bad Goodyear I have ever experienced was the Goodyear RSA which had no grip wet or dry, was harsh and noisy, squealed at the merest hint of cornering force and felt vague with no feedback. They were OE fitment on the Mk1 Chrysler Neon, a car that was transformed into being really very good by fitting some decent tyres.

I'm considering Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, but some testers reckon them less progressive than the Asymmetric 5. Such a subjective thing tyres. It's nice to have another option though.
I have F1 Asymmetrics on my XE, (3’s on front, 5’s on rear) have driven in snow, ice, dry and v wet conditions and the tyres have been confidence inspiring. Smooth drive, fairly quiet and really grippy. Was after PS4s but couldn’t source the fronts at the time so plumped for the GY Eagles. Pleased I did, especially as all 4 cost £516 fitted 🙂
When you say fairly quiet, are they as quiet as the Dunlops? I suppose the new tread vs worn tread makes a difference as well.
Slightly quieter than the original Dunlop’s which they replaced IMO.
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Re: New tyre option

Post by Fighterpilot » Wed May 05, 2021 8:00 am

Regarding sound/noise from tyres, new tyres will always seem quieter than those they are replacing for several reasons. First the decibel rating as new will be in the range of around 68-73 Dcb. Also the tread is new, so 7-8mm in depth and very pliable compared with a used 4-5 yo tyre. Factor in the hardening of the old tyre, which will increase noise and nearly all new tyres will sound quieter. Once the human lughole (ear) has listened to it a few times the quiet effect becomes less.
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